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The three stars are for the terrible condition these arrived in. The only thing that looked in decent condition was the pads. As far as sound these things are incredibly detailed from the very top to the very bottom. The bass quality surpasses my hifiman he400i's and 560's. These actually have the best bass response I have heard from a dynamic driver. The problem is the highs. These are very bright and can easily be fatiguing. It's a shame because the detail is definitely up there with high end headphones. I ended up putting a ring of 1/8th inch thick foam in the cup around the circular cut out that mostly solved the problem. It was all by luck but it softened the high end without messing up the bass making these my current favorite whenever I can get away with wearing an open set. I would not recommend buying a refurb from beyerdynamic like I did. Parts came broken or in terrible shape. If you do want to buy these whether to mod or for stock I would instead pay the few dollars more for the chrome edition new.Read full review
Verified purchase: Yes | Condition: Refurbished