A little lighter than I usually prefer, but still not bad. Even though they have what appears to be a nice knurl pattern, they still don't have a whole lot of grip, so your release may be a little off. It has to be the paint filling up all the fine gaps in the knurl that's causing them to lose grip. Still not bad though, and for their price point, the extras are a nice touch. A typical set will include a set of brass 22g black painted, knurled barrels, one set each of matching standard and fantail flights, a set of nylon shafts, a small box that fits in a specific slot that holds a few extra sets of shafts, a set of aluminum spinning shafts, three plastic flight protectors, a small, basic dart tool and a lined Viper clamshell type case that has adjustable height shaft retainers depending on the length of shaft that you prefer to use. The only real downside to the whole thing is the locking mechanism for the box; it's only a slide lock, and it doesn't stay slid over to keep the lid closed. Overall, still a pretty nice setup for the money.