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As expected apart from the missing hard drive. Would have been nice to have been warned ahead of time about this.
Verified purchase: Yes
Initially the system I purchased was working fine no issues didnt feel like it got hot or anything, well a week in after playing it only 4 or 5 times 2 hours each at most, console red ringed it is no longer operable. I have purchased 2 other 360s recently as well, just fine no issues. My take home is as long as you dont have a problem with opening up your console an cleaning and very likely replacing the thermal paste on your console it will serve just fine. Looking back I should have been more selective on which model to purchase, my RROD was a "falcon" I hear "jasper"s are the most reliable of the "fat" consoles. Personally I like to work on consoles an perform mods which the xbox 360 is ripe for. Do's- 1.change thermal paste 2.clean the consoles internals 3.12v fan mod 4. (Optional) cut out metal mesh In front of fans. Cheers!Read full review
Verified purchase: Yes | Condition: Pre-owned
The first system looked great but red ring of death (returned)... second looked beat up but works well (so far). I think it was just my luck. Everyone else seems to be happy with their systems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ EDIT: Added one star - still a great deal with a little work and a $5 repair kit. After further investigation of the second system I received it is obvious that the system has had the x-clamps removed on the GPU and CPU. Just one clamp was actually replaced with 4 bolts and the other was still utilizing MS's poor x-clamp design (its been repaired... poorly). I noticed this only because my second system had died and had to replace the thermal paste/ x-clamps for what seemed the second time. After thorough investigation, repairing, and prodding of my own, I now know the burn in period for the GPU was never implemented causing my GPU to go out after only a couple hours of play on the system. I recommend to everyone buying this system how has somewhat-high tech know-how to buy a new x-clamp (three red ring of death) repair kit with thermal paste on ebay (costs $2-$20) and try it yourself and use the step-by-step youtube video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo2dl2vlwis Happy repairs, kids. Mine now works fine :DRead full review
The Xbox 360 is an affordable console well worth the money if you are just going to be a casual gamer. The Xbox 360 has the widest selection of games as compared to any other console. It has some of the best exclusives to Xbox includign Gears of War. However if you are looking to be a serious gamer Microsoft has made it so that all of the extra stuff that you can buy with the console will cost more because of extra cords that you need to buy and the adapter if you would like to go online. Also the subscription for Xbox Live although cheap is also an extra cost. The controller for the Xbox 360 I thin is ergonomically better shaped than the controller for the PS3. The high failure rate of this console is also something to look at as with almost half of the owners needing to buy another one because of the famous Red Ring of Death. I myself experienced this with the first console i owned. If you would like to avoid this I would recommend upgrading to the new slim console. This console also runs kind of loud. It can be a bit of a nucense but I have gotten used to it and barely notice it anhymore. The top competitor Playstation can support Blu-ray and also has free live access to play the games online with your friends. Those are the only reasons that the PS3 also has a much lower failure rate. Those are the only reasons why the PS3 console is better. However the PS3 costs a lot more over 100 moer for the same amount of memory. Also there is a lot less titles available for purchase on the PS3. However if you are into games such as socom that is a Playstation exclusive. I myself have enjoyed the online community on the Xbox a lot better. Usually the more competitive gamers have an Xbox 360. However you can find lots of casual gamers that also own it. I think that with the cheap cost of the Xbox 360 you shouldn't have to worry about Red Ring because you can easily buy two for the price of one PS3 if you don't care about prior owners. It is purely up to you which console you think is better.Read full review
+++ Pros +++ 1.) More games than Playstation 3 (The Xbox 360 section at most Gamestop stores is like 2-3 times bigger). 2.) Cheaper system to buy (can be found in bundles online from Gamestop with multiple controllers, games, accessories etc.). --- Cons --- 1.) Design issues. The overall design of the Xbox 360 was rushed to beat its competitors to the market (Launched in the U.S. on November 22, 2005), the shortcuts taken and the design flaws sometimes bring about a nonfunctioning or limited functioning system identified by a number of flashing red lights known as the "Red Ring of Death" or "RRoD". Design flaws include the DVD drive sitting directly on top of the GPU heatsink and greatly restricts airflow inside the system, the motherboard being known to flex or warp from heating (during play) and cooling (when the unit is off), there seems to be a low quality thermal paste on the GPU and CPU chips which lowers the ability of the system to transfer heat to the heatsinks, also if placed vertically while gaming games can become scratched due to the mechanism that is usually installed in disc drives that help stabilize inserted discs is not present in early models of the Xbox 360, I don't know if they changed this later. 2.) Online gaming is not free as it is on the Playstation 3 (there are rumors that PSN (Playstation Network) will start charging users for use of PSN services, possibly due to the losses Sony incurred because of the recent security breach?). Also multiplayer games are mostly "online only" meaning you must pay for Xbox live membership to play with your friends instead of 2-4 people being able to play on the same Xbox 360 system or 2-4-8 via system-link. 3.) Bulky system cords. 4.) Consumer is almost forced to use Microsoft peripherals and accessories, for example the hard drives for the Xbox 360 (current sizes 20GB, 60GB, 120GB and 250GB and can range from $20-$150+) must be Microsoft brand or the system will not initialize it for use, with the Playstation 3, the consumer can remove the hard drive that comes with it and replace it with nearly any SATA laptop hard drive (largest on market is 1TB I believe and is around $100). Rechargeable battery packs for wireless controllers cost the consumer while Playstation 3 wireless controllers have them built in. Overview ***Xbox 360 vs Playstaion 3*** Personally, I have the Xbox 360, Playstation 3 (and the Nintendo Wii which is in a league of it' own). Most of the games I own are for the Xbox 360 due to there being more of a selection for the Xbox 360 and the ONLY games I have/buy for the Playstation 3 are the ones that are exclusively for that console (last time I checked there were about 30 PS3 exclusive games, I own 17 of them). To me it all boils down to: ***Xbox 360*** 1.) Less expensive 2.) Lots of games to choose from 3.) Less reliable system 4.) Charged for online play 5.) Must use Microsoft hard drives ***Playstation 3*** 1.) More expensive 2.) Fewer games to choose from 3.) More reliable system 4.) Free online play 5.) Can you non-Sony hard drives In this review I focused on the gaming experience of the Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3, I disregarded things like faceplates, console skins etc. because they do not affect gameplay.Read full review
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