I have been wearing Nike Torch 4 for years. I usually have 2-3 new pairs in my closet at all times (white, grey & black). They are amazing for sports (pickleball, tennis, cross-training, etc.) Amazing stability and lateral support. I need a shoe that holds my feet in place and doesn't cause foot fatigue, and these are some of the best. They also wear very well. I wouldn't say better than average, but I am very hard on my shoes on a daily basis, and you will easily get 12 months on these shoes. If you are looking for casual walking shoes, these probably shouldn't be your top choice, but for my lifestyle, I am very happy with this shoe. Quick tip - buy 1/2 size bigger than you normally wear.