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Vintage Holton Double Trigger Bass Trombone...kleinhammer?
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Aug 25, 2012
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US $2,025.00
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL, United States


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Last updated on  Aug 19, 2012 05:42:26 PDT  View all revisions

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Visit Store:   algee2
This is re-listed because the winner backed out right away, then the second place bidder low-balled Me. I will be happy to sell for a lower price but not to either of those two. Here's a Holton Double Trigger Bass Trombone in excellent playing condition, serial # 403683, made in 1966. Has a 9.5" Bell, .562 Bore, Rose Brass Bell. Main slide is excellent, smooth & fast, tuning slides & rotors are free & easy. I'm not sure what to call this model, I can't find any model #, It is stamped 8-33 near the connector on the slide section. I also can't find any pics matching this Rotor-tuning slide configuration, resembles something called Kleinhammer. Could be a single Horn with a custom made 2nd valve section. That whole second valve section can be removed easily & if The correct slide was added It would be a single trigger horn, That slide is not present & the slide on the removable section will not fit. Horn has been cared for, professionally used & maintained throughout It's life. That bridge piece between the two triggers has been repaired (decent job) also that black strip is a piece of tape to help the clamp grip the linkage to the 2nd valve. Comes in It's original hard case. Case is really bad but will protect the Horn for shipping. Of course pictures are of the actual Instrument You will receive. Buyer to pay $45.00 shipping in 48 states. Paypal payment preferred. Florida residents pay 6% sales tax.

On Aug-11-12 at 12:39:41 PDT, seller added the following information:

This helpful info was sent to Me, Thanks tromtubatoniumguy! .........Just for info, this is a Holton 169 "Kleinhammer" model bass trombone. Edward Kleinhammer of the Chicago Symphony wanted something like this, so he worked with holton, and this model was what came out of that. Holton no longer produces this design, and it isn't exactly a highly common piece.

On Aug-12-12 at 05:51:05 PDT, seller added the following information:

 And the opinions keep coming.....Thanks.....Hello, just a little info on your Holton Bass Trombone. As an owner of several of these and based on the serial number you have provided this is a TR185. The TR169 was discontinued in 1964 and became the TR185 after LeBlanc bought Holton in 1964. It might say 185 above the serial number on the slide receiver. Thank you and please post. Jack Schatz

On Aug-12-12 at 07:43:17 PDT, seller added the following information:

 And the Bone wars go on :)

Dear algee2,

lot of people are calling this horn 185 model i have prof the this horn is 186 not a 185 the one 185 is a single valve the 186 was the only horn made with the e valve .at the time and i can prof this the Horn men

- bassbone2

On Aug-12-12 at 20:07:42 PDT, seller added the following information:

Hello seller. As the owner of several Holton TR 185 bass trombones I can tell you that you are getting a bit of misinformation from someone. Bassbone2 is incorrect in his assessment of your beautiful instrument. The TR 185 WAS offered as a single valve instrument-I own one!! So was the TR 169. The "E" slide was offered as an option. During that time period the single valve horn was more common and many chose not to order the "E" plug in. I wish I had the money to bid on your instrument-bad timing for me. Best of luck as you're well on your way. I just wanted to set the record straight.

- wgwbassbone

I'm posting these emails because I couldn't identify the horn, certainly not to offend anyone...or keep You from bidding...hehe,   Al

On Aug-14-12 at 11:24:01 PDT, seller added the following information:

 And yet another one:

Beautiful horn!

The TR-185 was the single horn that could be made a dual valve instrument with the option of another valve. However it was also sold as a complete instrument with two valves, then it was called TR-186. This one has slightly modified levers for the valves and might work better that the original:-)

- jlingon

On Aug-15-12 at 03:48:14 PDT, seller added the following information:

 Dear algee2,

OK Holton enthusiasts, according to my 1960's Holton color catalogue, with the exception of the counter weight, this is a true and completely stock TR186. The valve lever assembly is completely stock. I have a picture of the horn in the catalogue to prove it.

- jschatz409

On Aug-15-12 at 04:25:02 PDT, seller added the following information:

 Dear algee2,

If jschatz409 says it is an original 186 then it is. Might be a really nice instrument.

- jlingon

On Aug-19-12 at 05:42:26 PDT, seller added the following information:

 I guess I need to amend one of My previous comments. If bassbone2 was offended in any way...............good!

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