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Oct 03, 2012 23:05:16 PDT
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Redlands, California, United States


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Derazey School French

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I run a small violin shop in Redlands, California (google "Taylor's Fine Violins") and love to work on old violins and restore them back 
to top playing condition, making them available to budget conscious performers. I've been involved in musical instrument making and 
restoration for over 30 years, with over 15 years devoted to violins.

This particular violin caught my eye, as it actually has the label of a famous Italian maker, Johannes Franciscus Pressenda, a maker who's 
work goes for well over $100,000, it actually to my eye resembles Pressenda, or more so his apprentice, Josef Rocca, who used 
Pressendas labels, Rocca is himself a well known Italian maker. My hopes were dashed when I showed it to experts, who informed me it could 
not be Italian and was almost certainly French, from the time period of 1860-1870, not 1840 like the label states. The label may or 
may not be original to manufacture, but it appears to have been moved, as the original markings show the outline of an identically sized 
label in a slightly different position (see picture). It was quite common, even on expensive violins, for French makers to use reproduction
Italian labels, and leave no indication of their own name. In any case two experts thought this violin looked similar enough to the work 
of Honore and Justin Derazey to at least call this violin Derazey school, which means not necessarily by Derazey's shop but someone in the 
same region that worked in the same or very similar style, a Derazey school violin of this caliber and age would be worth about 
$10,000 in good condition, but this violin is a little beat up with a professionally patched and  restored soundpost crack on the top 
and the back, and about 12 other cracks on the top, all professionally glued, cleated, and filled with a tiny bit of varnish for strength, so 
basically because of the condition, $2500 is a fair market price, but the cracks have little or no effect on the sound,  which is every bit as good
as a good $10,000 violin.
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Im my opinion, this is a strikingly beautiful looking violin, with a wonderful tone, medium loud, suitable for playing in any orchestra or 
chamber group but not quite the super loud, excessively bright sound symphony soloists are looking for. The tone is incredibly sweet 
and singing, very even, with loud sonorous bass, and clearly speaking treble. Unlike so many violins, it doesnt seem to make any bad 
or obnoxious sounds, and with the gut core Pirastro Eudoxa strings I have on it, it is not so bright in the high harmonics, but this doesnt 
make the e string weak at all, its just louder in the fundamental and mid harmonics than it is in the high ones, I like that sound, its actually 
my favourite sounding violin I have for sale right now, I had a better one, but that was an Italian violin from 1800, worth $30,000.
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There are no cracks in the pegbox. The fancy pegs are old, and turn perfectly. There is a soundpost crack on the back,
but its so well repaired (and patched on the inside) that you cant even see it unless you know exactly where to look,
and even then it only looks like a grain in the wood. I spent almost a month carefully restoring this violin, all the cracks that 
were weak, I separated, cleaned out and glued with high strength animal hide glue, and cleated on the inside for added strength.
A tiny thin layer of varnish seals the outside of the cracks to keep moisture out. This is a very lightweight, graduated quite thin 
violin, in less than mint condition, so if your the kind of player that like to abuse your violin, play outside on rainy days, or loan 
your violins to young students, i wouldn't recommend this violin. This violin needs to be well taken care of, just like you would 
a priceless 1700s Italian masterpiece. The scroll is not grafted, inside is clean work with full spruce/pine corner blocks and 
liners, and the carved flowers on the corners are glued on, not carved out of the top and back.
The finish is a glorious orange brown oil varnish, 100% original, with no added surface layers of french polish or varnish added,
the arching is classic Italian style, the carving, finish of the wood is top notch, the fingerboard is professionally set up with the right
curve and slight dish in the middle, new Aubert deluxe bridge, and expertly fit soundpost, 100% ready to play and enjoy for years 
to come, the sound is really so much better than almost anything else you will find for this price, thats why I offer an unconditional 
14 day money back guarantee for any reason. Look at my feedback, all happy customers and sellers, I don't like BS ing, I like to tell
it like it is, trust me, you wont overpay if you buy a violin from me, something not a lot of other sellers on ebay could say.

A thoughtful viewer asked for measurements, the length is 357mm, the widths are UB 163mm, MB 113mm, LB 206mm taken
with a flexible ruler, the stop length is 191mm, the bridge height in the middle is 34mm, the fingerboard and bridge curve radius
is the standard 42mm, with the d string set very slightly above that curve, as recommended in Hans Weisshaars book.
The string length is 329mm, i should note the side view picture was taken with the top not glued on, during the restoration

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