FLEETWOOD MAC - The Original Fleetwood Mac LP (RARE US Pressing
My LP grade
(Side A,B,C,D)=Not play graded
Country of issue=USA
Our Ref. ID#=10301
US original on SIRE, cover with light ring/shelf wear and some creases, LP is
close to M- with only a few scuffs, graded as a high-end EX.
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We use Record Collector Magazine's Grading Guide, it is essentially the same as
Goldmine except for VG+ grade. Simply, substitute Goldmine VG+ for our EX,
though our EX is more like VG++ most of the time (but not always)!
Our goal is to give it the lowest possible grade while remaining somewhat
objective, in most cases, we are paranoid about grading, for those of you whose
grading paranoia is even greater, we offer full refund upon return.
So how do we arrive at a particular grade? We establish a baseline grade
and then start giving minuses for major or multiple issues (please review
SS = (STILL SEALED) The record itself is in brand new
condition, assumed never to have been played.
M = (MINT) The record itself is in brand new
condition with no surface marks or deterioration in sound quality. The cover and
any extra items such as the lyric sheet, booklet or poster are in perfect
condition. Records advertised as Sealed or Unplayed should be Mint.
M - = (MINT MINUS) MINT- is not MINT but is very close
to it, near new, there might be a blemish or two, but overall record and jacket
are like new or very close to new.
EX = (EXCELLENT) The record shows some signs of
having been played, but there is very little lessening in sound quality. The
cover and packaging might have slight wear and / or creasing.
VG = (VERY GOOD) The record has obviously been played
many times, but displays no major deterioration in sound quality, despite
noticeable surface marks and the occasional light scratch. Normal wear and tear
on the cover or extra items, without any major defects, is acceptable.
G = (GOOD) The record has been played so
much that the sound quality has noticeably deteriorated, perhaps with some
distortion and mild scratches. The cover and contents suffer from folding,
scuffing of edges, spine splits, discoloration, etc.
F = (FAIR) The record is still just
playable but has not been cared for properly and displays considerable surface
noise; it may even jump. The cover and contents will be torn, stained and / or
P = (POOR) The record will not play
properly due to scratches, bad surface noise, etc. The cover and contents will
be badly damaged or partly missing.
B = (BAD) The record is unplayable or
might even be broken, and is only of use as a collection filler
We also use + or - to adjust grades in between, so...this scopes out to:
LPs are graded visually and conservatively under many bright lights.
Questionable marks are "spot-checked". If an LP has been play graded it
will be indicated so and a grade 1-10 will be assigned to it. Play graded
means the record has been listened to from beginning to the end, both sides.
We've learned not to get too excited when it is hard to determine the grade,
this means, we always under-grade and not over-grade!
I will NOT discuss my grading conventions or practices or attempt to convince
you my grading method is the best or the right one. Personally, since I am
a collector myself, I grade records to the best of my knowledge and according to
how I feel about it, I do not grade records to deceive you.
I feel my grade cover should give you a good clue as to the visual quality of
the record. Sometimes, visually, the record may look better than its
playback condition is, likewise, some records may look really bad but play very
well, this too will alter final grade, meaning, the record may look VG but play
EX, likewise, MINT- records must sound like MINT- or very very close to it, if
not, it will get an EX, no matter how good it looks.
Special note about MINT-, MINT- is not MINT but it can be. To my
understanding and acceptance, M- may have a light mark or two, even a light
scratch which does not cause any listening problems, MINT- will still be as
close to new as humanly possible. So, if you are one of those who do not
accept sleeve marks (which may be on the record from the
manufacturing/pressing), please, do us all a favor and look elsewhere!
Along these lines, if you will not accept a record because an inner sleeve has a
1cm split at the bottom, please, look elsewhere. Most likely, nothing but
a sealed record will satisfy you.
I attempt to grade MINT records as MINT- (if I was not the first owner), my
other grade is MINT-- (this corresponds with others' NM grade), my next grade is
EX, anything not MINT/MINT- will be graded as EX, (sometimes, if we can't help
it, we might say EX+, but, we try hard to avoid that grade).
VG+ misconception, this grade varies greatly from
seller to seller. Just for the record, our VG+ will never look as good as
that of a "strict Goldmine grade", also, VG++ does not exist in our grading.
So, what do my number grades mean?
*10 is given only to a record that is/was purchased brand new by me, no other
record will get 10! The sound will be flawless.
*9 is given to an LP that collectors would consider MINT, (9 is my
highest grade for a used record), meaning, there will be no surface
noise but you might hear a pop or two not because there is a damage (scuff or a
scratch) but simply how the LP was pressed, or a flake of dust might have fallen
onto it during playback. This will sound almost like a CD (meaning, no
noise, obviously LPs sound much better than CDs), it does not get much better
than this, any audiophile will be pleased with this.
*8 grade may have 4 or more faint pops or slight surface noise, usually found on
a record that's been played a few times but was very well taken care of, most
audiophiles will be pleased with this. Surface noise may only be audible
in between the tracks and (possibly) during quiet parts. If you were at
school, being graded, this would be a "B" grade.
*7-8 grade may have 10 or more faint perhaps inaudible in regular listening)
pops or little more surface noise bordering annoyance to those that are used to
hearing things on a CD, some audiophiles may not like this sound quality, but
most will be very satisfied. If you were at school, being graded, this
would be a "C" grade.
*5-6 grade will be just like 7-8, except surface noise/crackles may be more
pronounced. The record will have constant surface noise but will not over
power the music. If you were at school, being graded, this would be a "C-"
*5 will have even more surface noise/or some clicks and/or pops.
*4 and below will not be of sufficient quality to truly enjoy the music, it will
have significant surface noise/crackling, pops etc. I really do not have
such records, well there might be a few rare ones.
+ or - is used to enhance item's description, meaning, EX++ is so nice it could
pass as MINT- but I still consider it EXCELLENT and not MINT-. Well, we
dropped ++, we now simply say high-end or low-end, weak may also be used.
Finally, if I over grade a record (sometimes when listing many items I may miss
a minor detail) I will let you know about it before sending the record to you.
All records come in protective outer sleeves, they are shipped using
proper LP cardboard mailers (not used Pizza boxes) and are further wrapped with
bubble wrap. Exception to this is when we send package using Priority
Mail, in that case, we use USPS Priority Mail box which is sturdy enough, we
place the record/cover at an angle which fits perfectly, after we have further
bubble protected the entire inside of the box. Having mailed hundreds of
records that way we have never had an issue with shipping damage. One will
want to try very hard to destroy that package on purpose before really achieving
any damage to the box, so, feel safe.
I do not take out record out of the cover, I package it very
tightly and I do not think any seam splitting can occur (I know many dealers do,
however, I feel the record is more important than the cover, so the cover
provides additional protection, if you want me to ship it by taking the record
out of the cover just send me an email asking for it).
Shipping is via Media Mail at $4 and $1.50
per each additional record. In US, I actually lose with shipping.
ATTENTION US buyers:
eBay is making all sellers use a flat rate of $4 for Media Mail. This
barely (or just about) covers the cost of shipping, things you get but we'd like
to get paid for are:
Professionally cleaned LP (most stores charge $2 to clean LP professionally)
Outer plastic sleeve (these cost between 10-90 cents), if original inner sleeve
is not as nice as it should be, you also get a brand new inner sleeve (cost is
So, by choosing Insurance your LP is insured and we recover some of the costs,
while you don't have to (you will get things either way), it would be
appreciated if you take that into consideration and pick insurance. Of
course, we do not nickel and dime here, but this is just FYI.
For International bidders shipping varies, please email for a quote before
bidding, otherwise average is $15 and $4 for additional records.
Certain Western European countries can have a single LP (single-sleeved) shipped
for as low as $13, again, if you check out with default charge of $14 (gatefolds
are more expensive), I will refund $2-3 depending on the final charge.
For Canadian buyers, you may check out with default price, but I will refund
certain amount, depending where in Canada, the shipping is $7-11, again, I will
refund a certain amount if it ends up being much cheaper), or, simply request
NOTE that for International
shipping to have tracking and be fully covered by PayPal the cost is around
$10-15 more. Should records get lost I take no responsibility (this has
not happened yet). Personally, I recommend the cheaper option!
US Buyers NOTE: If you wish to insure it, please check out with Priority
Mail option at $7 and drop me a note to insure it and not ship it Priority,
items insured up to $70, $5 for items insured up to $150.
Your item will be shipped within 48 hours following your payment. For
those seeking fast delivery I encourage you to use Priority Mail (you have that
option upon checkout). Otherwise, item will be shipped via Media Mail and
may take up to nine days (how slow).
Florida Buyers NOTE: Florida residents will be
charged 7% tax.
I accept PayPal only but contact me if another payment arrangement should be
made! PayPal is the most preferred method. In rare cases I might
accept some other form, but please email me first. Your payment is
expected within three (3) days of auction close. Your item will be shipped
next day following your payment.
If you are unable to pay immediately or within three days,
please email before you commit to purchase, we are very understanding and will
wait, however, we must be sure you intend to pay within reasonable time frame!
Please note that we pay high fees to eBay regardless of the fact that buyer has
not really paid for the item.
All records are fully guaranteed, your satisfaction is extremely important
to me, more importantly...I personally have to be satisfied with the sale and
know that I provided some value to you. I do not sell crappy records.
Should you be unhappy with records you buy, please contact me to make
appropriate arrangements, normally, you would ship them back at your cost, but I
will refund the entire purchase amount once I receive the record(s) in the same
condition I sent them. Again,
buyer pays for shipping items back to me!
Certain, very rare albums may be excluded from this policy, if you just
wanted to copy that record, ask me for a copy on CD (at a reasonable price), do
not buy and then return the record after you copied it.
If you cannot deal with possibility of
having to return the record, we encourage you not to buy from us. On the
plus side, out of some thousand records sold over the past year we have had only
one returned, even that was not due to the condition, but
rather due to a different mix.
I do not do this for living but do know the value of
records, therefore, my starting price is the absolute minimum I must get for it
(I paid that much myself or it is truly, at least worth that amount).
Items are priced according to the amount I paid for it, current availability and
quality of the record and the cover.
If something seems expensive (which I'm sure some will), then we paid top dollar
for it, if something seems insanely expensive, we really do not feel like
selling/parting with that record, but, we can at price shown, (no
hard feelings and nothing personal), some LPs are simply dearer to us
Being a collector I cherry-picked all of the records with the intent of keeping
it, we never buy collections with resale in mind.
Essentially, that means, you will not get screwed by purchasing that record,
because I would not feel bad paying that much for it myself. It will be at
the very least a very fair deal. Most
importantly, all sales are guaranteed, if you should be unhappy with the record
received, please return it back for a full refund.
I will do my best to describe the item as accurately
as possible. I take pictures of every detail but do not display it due to
charges. You may email me requesting additional pictures or ask about item
details. While mistakes may happen, I will never knowingly misrepresent an
item (remember, I still buy records myself and know how it feels when you buy an
item and it is nowhere near its description, thankfully, most sellers are
Finally, I will play grade all records that are not MINT- (meaning listen
through the record in its entirety, not just sections) before sending it out.
If I think that record does not sound good or is not worth what you paid for it
I will let you know before sending it out, no surprises.
If condition of labels (spindle marks
etc.), inserts/inner sleeves and other extras is of paramount importance to you
please ask prior to purchase. To us, condition of those is of lesser
importance and we DO NOT describe them.
Original vs. re-issue:
Sometimes it may be very difficult to determine whether an LP is an original or
a later issue, in the US, matrix numbers do not always reflect whether or not
the pressing is a 1st or 20th, for that reason we shy away from saying/using
words like 1st pressing or an original.
In most (if not all US stores), many dealers refer to a record as 1st pressing
if it is on original label, regardless of the matrix number, yet, some buyers
and dealers only consider 1st pressing to be the one that has matrix numbers
1A/1B and so on. To that respect, we will only refer to a record as 1st
pressing if it has matrix numbers 1A/1B.
If you are like us, you love LP as a format and do not necessarily care if an
album is an original/1st press. Personally, I will always buy a MINT-
re-issue than a VG+ original.
So you purchased the record from me. Congratulations and thank you very
much for your business.
Communication is of utmost relevance to us! We encourage questions from
you prior to and post-sale. We will respond as soon as possible.
You will be kept up-to-date on the progress of your purchase and will be
promptly notified of shipping.
We are avid LP collectors with some 7000 LPs and growing. European background
and American know-how (is there a better combination?)
All of the records featured here and in the future listing are from my personal
collection and are either duplicates or records I no longer listen to.
If you are "mint crazy" you are probably interested in SEALED records only and
quite frankly, we prefer if you do your shopping elsewhere even if it involves
buying sealed records from us, if, however, you primarily listen to the music
and aren't just collecting because records might be worth something you've come
to the right place as the collection is bound to please most music lovers of all
Most (80%) of the records listed have been play graded on a Technics SL1200 MK5/Ortofon
cartridge and listened through Senheiser headphones, therefore, my grades are
very strict and are given a number 1-10. Most are in 8-9 range, a 10 is only
given to a record that was sealed and opened by me. This means a used record can
only get a grade 9 and not 10.
Almost all the records are M- and EX, they have all been cleaned and covers have
been cleaned as well, of course, there are some "budget" records just because we
can't help picking up yet another copy of our favorite artist.
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