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Aug 19, 2012
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Last updated on  Aug 10, 2012 08:21:08 PDT  View all revisions

Sorry for the 9 unexpected auction cancelations – basically due to one Weirdo out there! EBay found someone unauthorized to bid using another person’s account to place false bids (unauthorized bidding shenanigan). Why can’t people just have fun collecting? Could this perhaps be someone with sour grapes? Wonder who? Is this possibly someone that I have banned from bidding?

This bottle is one of the 9 bottles auctions eBay canceled due the bidding shenanigan. I have posted it to let you know the remaining 8 plus another 10 or so more, all rare colored American pontil’s.

All the rest of the Auctions will begin again on - Sunday Night - Aug. 11 / Ending one week later - Aug. 18th.




Light Yellow Golden Amber

Iron pontil, Clasic American Cylinder

Applied mouth, striking yellow color and just hammered with brilliant sparkling whittle.


Condition:  top shelf example with 2 wear spots - one is a very tinny pin head bump/rough spot (or small chip) on the edge of the base of the sloping lip as seen. Not bad at all - (Pic #8 and 9)..  and the other notable after Mfg. flawis a very small (1/8th") oval dull spot on side panel around from the word "Carter's" -  both have been photographed, (SEEN IN PICTURES AND 10).


About Perfect

With 2 pretty minor After Mfg. Flaws that are notable deviations from perfect . 

Very Rare Color!

Est. $1,500-$2,000.00.


This is not a buy it now for a million dollars auction like most on eBay today, but another very valuable

Rare Colored American Pontil Bottle, offered without reserve, and starting at only $9.99

I know this lot will find the correct value in today’s market! So, have fun bidding and good luck.


Below is a new addition for buyers:

First, a Description glossary describing explicitly what I mean by what I say. 

Secondly, below is a rebuttal from a recent unjustified negative feedback; it was given in spite by an arrogant, verbally abusive and unreasonable eBay buyer. The feedback is not correct and unfair as his claim “Bottle Significantly Not as Described; Poor Emails & Bad Attitude during refund”. this is factually untrue on its face. As you will read, the bottle was 99% as described, and I paid $64.25 beyond my return policy for my 1% error. The bottle had a bubble that was originally miss-described by me as closed. It was "closed" as I had described, but under black light it was discovered the small opening on this huge long bubble had been closed professionally in the distant past before my acquisition.  Please read the full story below the Description Index.


Item 1,  Description Index

 Hand Blown Glass is very hard to describe, so in an effort to be as clear as possible I have developed this following key.

Note:  I will never use the word “Mint” in a description. This never applies to hand blown glass because all handmade items are not minted in a die or machine made. American Pontil Era bottles are created by glass blower artisans individually; made one at a time with condition factors always changing. The early glass houses in America were often coal fired kilns located where the raw materials were mined.  Given that, these glasshouses were often rural sites inherently fraught with peril. The danger of fire, outlaws and Indian attacks made consistency even harder. It is very rare to find any glass bottle from the American pontil era that has NO Mfg. Flaws. Even if it just is a nice drippy applied lip or a string of bubbles.

The point I am making here is that Manufacturer flaws are very common and in most cases add to the hand-made character of the bottle. Many collectors (not all) think that Mfg. flaws add to the value, while some purists may feel it detracts…

Below I will do my best to explain my condition declaration. 


Discussion Issue - Restored/Cleaned, or Not Cleaned?

I cannot offer an absolute guarantee as to past restoration, handling or history; this is information that dates from its creation and may be 150 to 200 years, and is rarely available, but often times a Perfect bottle - will never have never been restored or if so, restoration is undetectable now on the outside, possible tumbles inside the piece. And, probably never dug; but possibly dug but somehow protected in a crock or the like and shows no signs of ground action or de-vitrification or mineral etching. One can never tell if very light cleaning or interior restoration has occurred, as therefore it is undetectable. a severe cleaning or restoration will be detectable and I will do my best to photo and describe if I to determine excessive cleaning or restoration has taken place.



Described as;


PERFECT – May or may not have common insignificant Manufacturer flaws - Possible attic find, or otherwise showing no signs of much difference than the day it was created, and has adequate sign that proper wear for its age is evident. Light and expected Wear is generally without after-Mfg. damage, but excessive wear may have little chips or bang stress cracks that were caused by excessive handling, and may be deemed as significant or excessive wear. Perfect usually has the expected base wear and possibly very few hard to find or inconspicuous light wear scratches or wisps of inner contents haze that in my opinion would easily clean/restore to perfect.


ABOUT PERFECT – May or may not exhibit insignificant Manufacturer Flaws and insignificant very minor flaws; like a surface scratch or two, light wisps of inner contents haze, exposed surface bubbles, cold fold lines or fissures, crooked necks or lips, pontil chips or makers tool marks, expected base and normal high points wear, and other countless irregularities created at the time of making. Possibly dug and cleaned or tumbled to about perfect, No obvious or serous etching, cracks, chips or other significant after Mfg. Flaws detected.


UNDAMAGED - Complete example Without significant after Mfg Damage  like cracks or chips- possibly dug – may be etched or stained – but would clean up ok if one wanted to restore the bottle. Undamaged will have NO cracks or chips other than sometimes ground lip chips, or other normal Mfg. flaws (in creation), roughness or irregularities. Bottle may possibility have some scratching, dull rub spots or other type etching or de-vitrification that could probably be tumbled out or restored by professional cleaning.  I generally will say something like “Dug and dirty bottle with staining and etching or de-vitrification, so this bottle is one for the purist, sold as found, looks to be unbroken from what is visible in this dirty condition, and it needs cleaning if you are so inclined”.


DAMAGED – I will photo and describe these after Mfg. damage and flaws in the auction listing. Any and all flaws I deem as having occurred after the date of Manufacture (i.e. “After Mfg. flaw”)


Item #2, Response for the negative feedback from yepitsnice:

As seen in both the original and resale auctions of this bottle, I miss-read a Mfg. flaw in the original ad, and described a bubble as an enclosed bubble when it had been professionally closed by an old restoration. (See my original description and the resale description).

Yepitsnice has made a false Feedback Claim that this item was “significantly not as described”.  The only issue here is, was a manufacturer’s flaw/bubble/ closed or not – it was described as a deviation from perfect “long thin bubble, “closed”, but apparently the closure was not natural, and this repair was not detectable to my naked eye or under microscopy. Member Id yepitsnice detected the repair using a black light and found it had been closed professionally with resin. The argument over a manufacturer’s flaw is wholly insignificant as to the description of the item. It was not an Orange I called a Banana! It is 100% accurate as to the item and its authenticity, origin, its age and rarity.

The Mfg. Flaw bubble at issue is a long onion thin skinned bubble that apparently once had a small opening to the surface and so at some past point it been restored/stabilized; and so Member id yepitsnice wanted a refund, I have a great return policy so that was fine, but I thought it odd that right from the start he would ask for the PayPal purchase to be refunded by a personal check sent in the mail; (NOT PAYPAL) which would void my PayPal protection and refund of fees.  I refused, and refunded his hammer price and original shipping using PayPal. PayPal will not let us refund more than the original hammer price plus shipping, so I needed to refund the $64.25 additional RETURN shipping and insurance separately - and did so separately.  The return shipping is beyond my no questions asked money back return policy, but I simply wanted to be fair because I missed the repair of the long bubble and described it as “closed.” 

Remember, I saw, pictured and described this bubble flaw in the first auction yepitsnice won, and at that time had set the estimate lower for the bottle accordingly. As seen in the auction I estimated this bottle at “$1,500-$2,500” (and I listed this "deviation from perfect" because of the bubble flaw).  He told me that the fact it went for so much less proves it was not significantly as described, but what he paid I had no control over. Member id yepitsnice obviously got caught up in the moment and bid $3,383.88 for it, when the low estimate was $1,500 (His winning bid was $1,838.88 over) Makes me wonder - Was all this all really about buyer’s remorse?

 I relisted the bottle and in the relisting told the true story. The relisted bottle sold for $1,754.99, well within my estimated range. Then Yepitsnice told me that the lesser amount that the relisting bottle brought was proof it was “significantly not as described” – an untrue assumption.  I don’t know if Member id yepitsnice just over-bid in the heat of the final bidding but I do know his disgraceful demeaning email to me and resulting spiteful negative feedback was unjustified, and as far as accurate, is a lie from the gate. The bottle is 99% as described and I made good on the 1% with the return refund.

 So, I thought I had done everything a person could do to make it right. I not only refunded the original hammer price and original shipping but an additional $64.25 out of my pocket because I miss-read the flaw - for the return shipping.  PayPal always sends out a “you have money” email so I know he/she was notified of the payment.

3 weeks after yepitsnice was sent notice from PayPal that he had been paid for the final return shipping refund I got another nasty email asking again for a personal check payment (not PayPal). He was claiming he had not gotten his money, and he was threatening negative feedback unless I sent him a personal check. This was the 3rd  time he asked for cash money – and by this time I was dismayed he was once again asking for the $64.25 be sent to him by check in the mail, saying if he did not get the PayPal refund he would leave me a bad feedback.

When I firmly told him he had already been paid, and refused his demand for a check “or else he would issue a well deserved negative feedback”, he emailed back, and attacked my honesty and honor, and called me stupid – he suggested I think about trade school because I was so stupid college would be out of the question; so I should forget about college. He was very demeaning and  literally called me a  “dumbs--t  a--hole”, he said I probably was trying to pull a fast one miss-reading the flaw, and continued by threatening me with a bad feedback if I did not send him a $64.25 return shipping with a personal check if he did not get it from PayPal. His attempt to demean me and beat me down and into sending him an additional personal check refund did not work.

Buyer: Member id yepitsnice and his/her hateful language is not suitable for eBay, so I will not print it here, buy I will gladly forward his awful email to interested parties as I have done with my report to eBay.

Needless to say I have banned yepitsnice from bidding on these auctions and all future auctions.  Hopefully eBay will do the right thing...

Sorry for the drama. Thanks for your patience and understanding.

Once Again – I offer Very Rare items starting at a ridiculously low $9.99…

Good luck at the auction, and have fun with this wonderful hobby.



On Aug-10-12 at 08:21:08 PDT, seller added the following information:



US $3,383.88

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