Elgin/Bradley Pie Eye Mickey Mouse Watches have been sold for quite a long time here or on other sites, but I have now seen two different sellers attempting to sell a pie eye with a second hand!!! This is a big joke as this model watch hasNEVER BEEN MADE with a second hand! These are fake pieced together pie eye watches with altered movements and should not be purchased as they are totally worthless. There are many variations of this watch, some standing on the number 7 and some not, also some have reds hands( most common ), orange hands (kinda rare ), Large orange hands (a little more rarer ), purple hands (the most rarest ) and then some very rare ones might have a bent elbow instead of the normal curved elbow, BUT NONE HAVE A SECOND HAND!!!! This movement was not made or intended to have a second hand so if you see one for sale anywhere especially here on Ebay, DONT BID OR BUY THIS FAKE KNOCKOFF!!!!!